Jan Cox Talk 0253

Talk–Adjusting Oneself to the Inevitable, and Is It Useful or Beautiful?

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Summary

Jan Cox Talk #253 Mar 26, 1987 – 1:50
Notes by TK

[Reading of Kyroot to 0:53]

A spectrum spectacle description:One purpose of human talk is to adjust oneself to the inevitable. Every attempt to explain oneself is just accommodation to inevitability of being yourself. Without this safety valve people would explode, go crazy; would be unable to adjust to upcoming inevitability. Analogy to lubrication of an engine.

A flippant philosophical question: what kind of truth is it that is variable? Answer: the only truth. The natural, ordinary, cynical observation about a variable truth being the only possible truth, is rampant; therefore This Thing is never taken seriously as truth.

Regarding an observation by a Group member: there are no answers–but this is not exactly right. There are no answers for the ordinary, true, but there are answers–however they are not the cul-de-sac Yellow Circuit conclusions accepted as common currency.

The motivating edge of guilt cannot exist for The Few; must cease disruptive actions or thinking about stopping–one or other.

There is a place for conclusions–willed, artificial ones applicable only to a private, internal universe. The Few must willfully conclude. There is an unnatural efficiency in this; invocation of responsibility.

Excursion

1:48 TASK: Find/hear 8 examples of other people’s talk as an adjustment to their own upcoming, inevitable reality.
Consider: why would any truly intelligent person own anything they didn’t find to be useful or beautiful? Does this apply to you? Why not? Consider this internally; habits, desires etc. Can you get rid of same?
Dictum: Buy everything or give up shopping altogether. No halfway ground; no middle ground for The Few.


Condensed AKS

5/12/83-(1)
…and Kyroot said:
All machines, systems and processes must have a built-in degree of
suitable tolerance; a little looseness
and room for slight movement of the
individual parts.
If the mechanics of any living structure fit too closely, it could not move and
grow.
Thus, you should understand, that from
this viewpoint, there can be no “perfect
machine”, but always a matter of limited
variations within known structures.
5/12/83-(2)
…and Kyroot said:
As long as you obey the desire to identify yourself with some group of humanity
you heed the call to rest and die.
5/12/83-(3)
…and Kyroot said:
The world wide cry for, “more education” is but a mechanical reflection of Man’s destiny to extend the upper levels of the nervous system.
…and Kyroot said:
As understanding increases, you begin to see Man as a never ceasing
growth process,
and your duty becomes
to halt all criticism of life-in-action.
…and Kyroot said:
The ordinary nervous system consciousness of Man can study its lower operations, but the apparent “I”
cannot so study itself.
One’s
developement
must rise above this mechanical level so that the I-functions can then be seen and studied as
a lower operation
5/12/83-(6)
…and Kyroot said:
I once met a cutesy, little human couple who swore their’s was the love-of-loves.
She waited tables while studying ballet, and
he laid bricks and played his music in week end bare
They claimed they were just “ordinary
folks”
except for their unequaled, uncontrollabl undying love. They said they didn’t havE much, but they had each other, and this forever, spiritual, extraordinary love.
And yet they still seemed rathe/
ordinar
(But, I guess I had no real reasc to doubt them; she did have the bruises to prove it.)
5/12/83- (7)
…and Kyroot said:
You can only be impressed with ordinary Men so long as you do not
know your own condition.
5/12/83-(8)
…and Kyroot said:
The ordinary often speak of a certain “inherent contradiction”: in a situation, or idea, when it is simply that they are blind to some of the various forces and interactions at work.
5/12/83-(9)
…and Kyroot said:
The Few must make that which is presently too drastic
become gradually believable via neural overload.
…and Kyroot said:
I once was trapped into conversation with a so-called, holy man
who did not seem especially pleased
with my pedestrian and noncommital
responses to his bombastic ravings. Following one such exchange, he stopped the dialogue and informed me, “If you, sir, had been better trained in religious affairs you would
not have refered to this matter in those crude terms.”
And I said “Well, I wasn’t, and I did.”
5/12/83-(11)
…and Kyroot said:
I once discovered two would-be evolutionary groups in the jungles near Growtalov. The first group studied apparent maps and imagined what it might be like to make such a journey and visit the secret kingdom.
The second group took a more curious approach: They began to “build a castle” at their present site to make the far-away land exist there.
5/12/83-(12)
…and Kyroot said:
If a Man could just glimpse the never ending flows, and interactions of energy he could suspect how the tongue speaks without a script.
…and Kyroot said:
Once, while passing through a small village, after much urging on the part of the spiritual elders, I addressed the people on matters generally related to the arcane.
After my little talk, one of the elders took me aside and said, “I know you weren’t aware of it, but several times during your talk you used profanity.”
And I replied, “The hell you say.”
But he insisted that due to my fatigue, or from some unconscious drive, I had indeed, interspersed my spiritual words with quite profane terms.
Seeking to
extract myself from further entanglements in this folly, I did agree that it was possible I had unknowingly let such words accidentally slip from my lips; I apologized
and left.
(That’s exactly why I don’t like to normally fuck with these bat-eyed bastards.)
5/12/83-(14)
…and Kyroot said:
You must See that no matter your fine day dreams and splendid plans, there is a “something else” that ultimately fuels, or withholds the power of locomotion
5/12/83-(15)
…and Kyroot said:
I once wandered into a lecture wherein the professor was unrolling a bombastic, garndious commentary
on the little creatures, enterlaced with such pronouncements as, “As is
an undisputed fact in the field, amongst all spiders the bite of the tarantula is the most deadly.”
Afterwards I approache the grandmaster and asked him exactly”how does something become a fact?”
He peered over his glasses at me with .a surly expression and said, “I believe there has been some mistake here; the attendees were assumed to be only those interested in insects”.
Not being able to locate my magnifying glas I could not continue the conversation.
…and Kyroot said:
Is part of Man’s so-called progess to go from vague anxieties to definite fears?
…and Kyroot said:
The Church used to say, “Give us a child for his first ten years, and he will be ours forever.”
Life does this also.
5/12/83- (18)
…and Kyroot said:
The Few must feel and exercise total control over unknown phenomena, (at least, banish them to either:
The O.N.K.I. File: Of No Known Importance.
or:
The L.F.Y. File: Later For You.
or:
The B.D. File: Bad Dreams.
(There are other catagories for those of a more religious background, but I’m on a profanity diet.)
5/12/83-(19)
…and Kyroot said:
On one of my numerous travels on earth, I once stopped for a while in a village of hard working souls whose would-be religious life was somewhat of a microcosm of humanity’s in general.
Sensing some potential in these mortals I tried
to show them that their ideas of a better spiritual state were all based on the assumption that Man had lost something in the past, and that so-called religious efforts were an unusable attempt to go backwards, not forward.
Well, they had a fine ole time laughing and ridiculing this notion, and insisted that everyone knew help and salvation lay in the holy past. I decided to try and offer them physical proof. I produced an old laundromat washing machine, talked six of the elders into climbing in, stuck in a coin and sent them back t( the days before Adam.
And the result? After five furious minutes of tumnling, kicking and screaming, “Wheeeeeeee”, a voice from within cried out, “Stick in another quarter.”
…and Kyroot said:
A young lad once asked me, “Pray kind sir, what kinds of forces rule the universe?”
And I asked him what kinds he thought did, and
he said, “I don’t knoN,
and
I said” There’s your answer.’
5/12/83-(21)
…and Kyroot said:
Late last century I was seated in a sidewalk cafe in Turkey when a man at the next table suddenly began to mumble and shake the newspaper in his hands.
I went back to watching the people parade, but the mumbling and noise grew louder. The man leapt to his feet and began to tear the paper into shreds while screaming out that all of the reporters and editors were liars and fools. Smoke began pouring from his ears as he hurled the shreds to the pavement and began jumping up and down on them screaming out that you couldn’t believe anything printed in these lying newspapers.
After a bit, when he had calmed down, I asked him why he read the papers if
he had such an attitude, and he replied,
“Well, you must stay informed.”
5/12/83-(22)
…and Kyroot said:
Recently, a lad engaged me in talk, and disclosed that based upon his extensive research of all religious, mystical and occult studies he had decided that all of the famous spiritual figures of history were not super human messengers from the gods, but were beings from other cosmic worlds.
He wanted to know if I agreed.
I pointed out that it was a shame his education seemed lacking in the physical sciences so that he might consider the interchnagability of time and location.
5/12/83-(23)
…and Kyroot said:
If, as you humans say, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, what would be its aroma if “smell” were spelled, s-o-u-n-d?
b/Wdi-(Z4)
…and Kyroot said:
Some years back, I stayed for a while in a village where the people showed an unusual ability to hear of ideas extraordinaire, which I periodically presented
to them.
After several months of such conversations, a large
group of them came to my hut and announced that they
intended to replace their king-priest with yours truly. I declined their offer and left the village
that afternoon.
After my departure, their leader learned of their attempted plan, and with his personal warriors came after me.
The morning of the following day, they caught up with me as I strolled along, and the king-priest, who had previously displayed only kindness, leapt from his steed and demanded to hear what I had to say about his village’s attempted coup. I pointed out to him that I had declined their offer and left.
5/12/83-(24) – 2
All grew silent as his warriors
turned to gauge his response.
He scratched his back with his
sword and moved dirt around with
his right foot, and said, “Well I still don’t like it.”
5/12/83-(25)
…and Kyroot said:
A mortal with whom I periodically met one day approached me in a most forlorn condition, and said he dearly needed to talk with me.
He commenced to relate an endless stream of hard-
luck tales about how no one liked him; how everything he attempted came to naught, and how deeply difficult it was just to keep putting one foot in front of the other each day.
During a pause I told him, “Hell, look on the brighter side: you might die
tomorrow.”
and
he
said,
“It’s always a relief to
speak with you.”
5/12/83-(26)
…and Kyroot said:
What is it that you expect from an activity such as This?
I can say that all of your worst fears will ultimately be realized.
But what you don’t now understand is that these worst fears are not dread at all, but your salvation.
5/12/83-(27)
…and Kyroot said:
How is it that the Few attempt this miraculous journey into another living time in the midst of the ordinary world where no one else is even aware of what is taking
place?
(And you sometimes think its not mysterious enough.)
5/12/83-(28)
…and Kyroot said:
Do any of you begin to slightly See and feel the necessity for group effort in This activity?
Can you begin to glimpse
the need for a kind of
unknown companionship,
a
friendship
not based on ordinary factors of one reactionary system
fueling the deficiencies of another. Not of one
illusionary-I stepping on another. But
of objectively sharing the physical reality of this extraordinary food so that its nourishment reaches the farthest corners of the
Group body.
Can you also begin to understand why I cannot deal with individual I’s and the expense of either overstuffing, or starving the ultimate purpose of This activity?
5/12/83-(29)
…and Kyroot said:
A few years back, while walking along in western Belguim,a young man pressed a handbill on me which read, “Love, love is the
answer.”
I went back to where he stood and asked him, “Then what is the question and he said,”Beat it.”
(Maybe I should stay out of Europe.)
5/12/83-(30)
…and Kyroot said:
One summer while on the Greek isle of Mitoma, I sat in an open air academy, joined by a collection
of local scientists and philosophers who were passionately discussing
the concept of “the real” as opposed to the “imaginary”, and its impact on the life of Man.
The heart of the discussion was centered on the premiss that humanity was far too influenced by false, illusionary ideas, and imaginary concepts far removed from their fields of scientific study and analytic scrutiny. They seemed all convinced of a basic “reality” which alone would serve the ultimate needs of rational Man.
A mathematician
arose and decried, “For instance, my collegues, in my field we have the supreme proof of a basic, concrete reality — there is nothing less than zero
As they all ponder this, I asked him about negative factors, and he
surveyed me with some disdain, but replied,”Those we use merely as a
practical necessity; they really do not exist, they are imaginary
numbers.” And I said, “Well?…”, and he said, “Well?…”
5/12/83-(31)
…and Kyroot said:
In North America, I once entered a small bookstore, and in the rear found three young men reading through some printed collections of my words. I pretended to be examining a book while listening to their conversation.
The first man said, “This Kyroot is surely an extraordinary creature. He is about that very thing that we used to dream of.”
And the
second man looked up rather curiously and said, “I’m not so sure. at best, he seems to be somehow playing out for us in words the folly and misdirection of ordinary man.”
And the third one slammed
his book shut and declared, “He’s crazy.”
Well, I left just before the fight broke out,
but it’s good to know that some things never change.


Transcript

TALK — ADJUSTING ONESELF TO THE INEVITABLE,  AND

IS IT USEFUL OR BEAUTIFUL?

Document:  253,   March 26, 1987
Copyright (c) Jan M. Cox, 1987

I now offer you a temporary explanation to account for much of what is criticized in the body of humanity; much of what is cynically laughed at; as well as the basis of many so-called psychological feelings about the inexplicable areas of human speech, and here it is:  one purpose of talk is to adjust oneself to the inevitable.  The numerous attacks that have been made religiously, socially, politically, psychologically, against “too much talk” — such as its condemnation as being mechanical, useless, frivolous, self-serving, irresponsible — are true from various ordinary viewpoints.  However, any possible accusation directed at all those viewpoints are just a small part of this correct statement:  one of the real purposes of talk is to adjust oneself to the inevitable.  The condemnation your own partnership engages in and directs toward other people, your daily performance as critic on Life’s Daily Planet newspaper, talking about what can’t be changed or understood, these behaviors are all correctly described by this particular prescription of spectrum spectacles.  Furthermore, all forms of explaining oneself are also attempts to accommodate the inevitability of ordinary people continuing to be themselves.  Even the seemingly innocuous, “Hey, I’m not that kind of guy!” is a perfect example of somebody trying to defend the borders of “who he is.”  He’s just outlining the inevitability that he will always be “who he is.”

Taking it into another area, people state conclusions about themselves in this manner:  “Well, I’m not like that.”  It operates like a pre-opened valve to relieve inevitable pressure generated by the friction of the ordinary being who they are in life.  For those of you that heard this right away, you can find it applies to everything that every other human can say.  Your partnership is very likely to comment about what a waste of time it is when people talk like that.  At the ordinary level, it’s not a waste of time.  You’ve got to see that it’s as important as oil to an internal combustion engine.  That person, that molecule in the Body of Life, is adjusting itself, accommodating itself once again, to what every human knows is the upcoming inevitability of it all.  And what is that unspeakable inevitability?  That the life you now live is the life you’ll always live.

I suggest to you (although this becomes a 4-D mobius strip that I’m not going into) that without the ability to talk, people could not arrange and adjust themselves to the inevitability of no change, they would go mad.  But the 4-D part is:  were it not for the ability to be able to think about such as this they could not, of course, think about the inevitability of change, and, of course, they could not talk.  If they could not talk, they could not think of this, and you’ve got to be able to think about this to talk to start with.

Let me remind you once more that this question is outside the realm of the ordinarily conceived and defined psychological areas in Life.  But it is as physical, material, and molecular as the operations of the respiratory system.  It is a kind of gasping for reasonable oxygen, for reasonable Yellow Circuit breath, for people to say, “I don’t believe I deserve any better, things just aren’t going to change,” or even the contrary, such as, “Yeah, I’ve been knocked down, but you just have to get up and press on.”  There is no difference between those two apparent opposites.  Once you Hear this, it is beyond any possible debate as to whether or not people can change.  Just listen to the sound of Life itself coming out through Man:  it is people admitting that they are part of the inevitable, though “admitting” is not the right word.  There is no word on this planet for what I mean.  The total area I’m talking about is simply the oral manifestation of the reality that it is inevitable.  And that’s what people are saying when they state conclusions regarding themselves or other people.  Can you Hear it?

Can any of you see any possible connection between this and my erstwhile suggestion, cum strong, strong suggestion, that if you are really going to attempt to change, do not tell yourself?  Nor tell yourself what you have changed for the last two weeks:  Do not spill this information into the partnership.  Can you see any connection with the one purpose of talk being to adjust oneself to the inevitable?

What if you could refrain from talking?  It would be easy enough, of course, if you think I just meant “to hush.”  Almost anybody can stop talking.  But what if you could actually stop talking?

And now to apparently change the subject, how about this:  someone once asked the cynically philosophical question, “What kind of truth is it that varies from village to village, and changes from time to time?”  If all of you were completely in the hands of Line-level consciousness, that’s the kind of question that would intrigue you.  I’ll answer it for you.  It’s the REAL truth, the ONLY permanent truth.  And yet at the ordinary level the intention of question/statement is obviously, “Well, that’s no kind of truth!  Something is wrong with consciousness if in one village something is true, and you go right over the mountain, around the curve to another village, and what they call truth is different.”  So the part of Life’s body asking these questions sneers, (if not with lips, then with pen) “What kind of truth is that!”  The tacit part of the statement, of course, is that real truth would be the same anywhere at any time.  And I tell you:  that is not true.  That being the case, do you understand why this sort of activity, no matter where and when, is never mentioned by ordinary people in the same breath as motherhood, Flag Day, or the Fourth of July.  Ordinary consciousness can not perceive the threads of connection between the many forms of this activity even if people suspect in different villages, at different times, that “something” is going on.  They never mistake This Thing for some serious door to the great truths.  This kind of activity cannot fit the binary criteria contained in the statement that I started out with:  what kind of truth is it that varies from village to village and changes from time to time?  This kind of activity cannot fit the binary limits of the question.

Some time ago I had everyone write down what they considered to be some serious verbal answer that they believed they had discovered since being involved with This, and we laid them all out and everybody chose a different one to preface with a question.  Here is one that I brought.  The person wrote down the answer, “There are no answers.”  Another person picked this up and wrote, “What is the answer?” as the question.  Now that sounds verbally reasonable.  And if we didn’t stretch it much further than that some people out in the ordinary world would go, “Yeah, that’s the right question for the answer.”  But this needs to be pursued a little further with you people.  There’s more to it that you’ve yet to See.

Let’s put it this way:  there are no quote “answers” in the verbal currency ordinarily used; oh, there are “answers,” but they are not the cul-de-sac Yellow Circuit conclusions ordinarily accepted.  If you can glimpse that, you should see within your own living nervous system, you could observe the molecular process level and reasonably conclude, “Well, there are no answers.”  There are some answers.  There may be THE answer, but it is not in the realm of Yellow Circuit conclusions, which is the realm where such questions arise.  The answers are not found in the same area that can make such a statement as:  “There are no answers.”  That is one dirty truth.  That is when you have to go from a three dimensional mobius strip into whatever a four dimensional mobius strip would be.

I have a question:  Why would any reasonably intelligent person own anything that they didn’t find to be either useful or beautiful?  Another way I’ve heard that Man’s uniqueness has been characterized is that he is the only animal that collects stuff.  Chimpanzees, dogs, they don’t collect anything, and it doesn’t matter how civilized or how feral the man in question seems to be.  He may be collecting the skulls of his enemies, moths, stamps, or clothes.  Everybody collects something, everybody has possessions that aren’t needed to sustain life.

Why would a truly intelligent and unusual person like yourself own anything neither useful nor beautiful?  Let’s all just think just for a few seconds.  Do you own things that you can’t really say are useful, that is, you never have used them, and you don’t plan on using them — but when you look at them are you glad you have them?  Now everybody think right quick, try real hard to think of anything that you own that does not fit into my classification of being either useful or beautiful.  OK, here we go.  Alright, that’s enough time.  Do you find that interesting?  Those of you who don’t, you didn’t understand it, you didn’t hear me, and/or you don’t believe that you’ve got stuff that’s not useful or beautiful.  Why would anybody own such things?  Now let’s take that marvelous jump from what apparently had to do with some kind of clothes, books, or china, and let’s jump from that foolish, silly, obvious world into the real one. What possible application could that have to one’s so-called inner life, that great personal inner world?  How about applying it to your own habits, your own desires?  You could certainly throw away un-useful and un-beautiful habits — if you really bit your tongue.  Perhaps it might even serve a purpose.  You make a mistake if you do not see that everything that passes for desires, habits, wants, needs, fears, are things you own.

Now jumping back and forth, forget that silly speed of light, but jumping back and forth from what might be the unreal into the allegorical, from the paradigmatic into the impossible, here again is a place for even extraordinary people like you to consider a binary course of action, because this one is so far removed from lateral reality that it should be a sub category of its own.  You could take this as a dictum, and it would be:  Either buy it all or give up shopping.  But you keep piddling around and keep acquiring these things (maybe you haven’t acquired any in a while) that are neither useful nor beautiful.  And sometimes you suffer over it, such as those random moments of looking at your stuff and thinking, “Look how much I got tied up in this crap.  I’d die if something happened to it.  Yet, I don’t use it and it’s not beautiful.”  That’s piddling around, unless you’ll buy it all, whether it be records, little velvet paintings, gardening tools, or whatever — that is, take every cent you don’t spend on food, rent, and clothes and buy it all.  Spend it all there or give up shopping.  Any middle ground is for the middle aged.  Only the weak, the indecisive, the ordinary worry about giving up a habit.  And the ordinary you will suffer in such a manner.  But if you can learn how to do it, if you understand that it doesn’t much matter if you own what seems to be some bad habits, that the trick is to get beyond the ordinary, three dimensional, motivating edge of guilt.  You’ve got to see that the outcome of guilt is never change.  Nay, nay, the guilt, the suffering over it, is a purpose within itself, an end within itself.  Stop the suffering or stop thinking about it:  they’re almost the same thing.  Remember, the ordinary can’t change and they can’t stop thinking about changing.  So there you have it.

I want to say a final thing about conclusions.  As much as you believe you have heard me ripping apart conclusions, let’s get into serious business.  There is a place for conclusions, for the few people.  You can learn to generate a kind of willful, induced, forced (artificial if you will) conclusion.  Private conclusions in your own private world of personal affairs.  In any of your personal relationships; sexual, friendship, family, it doesn’t matter; you may perceive some sort of conflict and there comes a time you need to simply turn to somebody and take responsibility for whatever is under discussion.  You say, “Hey, it was my doing, I take responsibility, forget it.”  Anytime an imbalance arises between you and another person, where energy is being transferred the way it should be in the ordinary world, you are trying not simply to be powerful, but trying to be efficient.  There is no need to go into specifics.  It is simply, we are disagreeing, we are arguing; it is a conflict of some kind over whose fault it is, who should have done what, and you need to conclude it, willfully and intentionally.  From a certain view, it is artificial because you could say you don’t mean it, but it’s beyond any point of meaning it.  The only people that mean things are those people who are tied up in the mechanical flow of the ordinary nexus of Life.  “Listen, I did tell you to do so-and-so, now don’t tell me I didn’t.”  Now, if you’re ordinary you mean it all, if you have the kind of energy to do something extraordinary, you have to stop it as soon as you hear it.  Say it directly, “I am taking responsibility for it.”  I’m just hesitating to tell you people to tell somebody it is your fault or for you to say the words, “I’m sorry,” even to ordinary civilians.  Whatever it was that made you say, “I’m sorry,” is the kind of thing that will kill you, and keep you right where you are.  I’ve already told you that you shouldn’t be doing that to each other, and not for any mystical or verbal reasons.  It is just another way of explaining yourself, and to waste your time on that is to live in the past.