Jan Cox Talk 2566

Another Way to Look At It

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Jan Cox Talk 2566   – Aug 18  2000
Copyright Jan Cox, Jan’s Legacy 2015

Suggested Title: Wasting Time/Waking up

Begin:  If you can ever stand far enough away from yourself – you will “wake up”.  “Being asleep” is standing too close to yourself. So what can you do? Force your thoughts to return over and over again to see what the mind is when engrossed with thought.

It will become clear for a millisecond, when the above is done repeatedly, what “being asleep” and standing too close to yourself is all about. Ordinary minds have a natural firewall that serves as protection for the passive medium of thought.

But to The Few, as long as the mind is serving as a passive medium for thought, the mind can’t ponder itself.  The mind stands far too close to itself (stays involved with thought) to gain understanding of itself. The intelligence that comes with enlightenment can not be talked about.

Ordinary minds look to other minds for explanations of life. The mind that looks to its own for explanations, is a vain endeavor, because the machinery that runs the mind is not located in the same place as the mind.

05:00  All meaningful/interesting operations concerning the mind occur off site – which explains the near impossibility of the mind ever understanding itself. “The endless turning of the carousel” does not disturb the horses there on. Nor neither the mind (or even awareness) of its own similar situation.

A man asleep is an endless dance. If you stay too much at home it becomes too familiar. The more you stay at home, the dumber you become. A man feels most secure in his own home. Safety and stupidity can quickly become the same thing if you stay at home too much. 

Allowing the mind to be a passive medium to whatever thoughts presented to it, is what is meant by staying at home too much. To see this through you have to give some space between you and the thoughts that flow thru you.   

A man does not wake up suddenly in Buddha Land. He awakens in the middle of a mentally, meaningless, dance step he was having with himself. Getting to the bottom of things takes you off the dance floor. (The dance floor being the familiar arms of thought.)

10:00  Who is life the most proud of? The people who pretend the dance is important or the people who criticize the dance? Study your own mind and if you persevere and are lucky, you have been on the correct and incorrect (for lack of a better word) path.

15:00  Your mind can believe it has a sizable collection of facts about its mind – but it’s not true. The one and only thing for sure is the mind knows nothing about the mind. After many years of observation I realized this. Easier to see is “what good has it done?”  (Its slippery)

20:00  All attempts to look at your mind produces nothing. The apparent somethings it does produce are simply words. Whatever is running the mind is outside the mind. We are not talking about the freudian subconscious mind where you were mistreated by a parent.

25:00  Whatever is running consciousness (thoughts) is not located on site. Information at the conscious level is fed from many sources. (ex. senses such as touch that makes you remove your hand from an object that could cause blisters/burns if you do not remove your hand.)

30:00 The senses are located outside the cortex. The senses fuel the cortex but are located off site. This explains why the mind can’t understand itself. The machinery that runs the cortex is located off site. If true, it’s either a great relief or a great setback for the few.

35:00 Linguists have pointed out “how do children learn to talk?” They can go from saying Da, Da, Ma, Ma, to using abstractions within days. (ex. where, soon, being late, etc.) What does “soon” look like to the mind? I find it to be of great benefit to consider.

It is not getting anywhere but maybe dizzy – like  looking at the horses on a carousel. The average child can put together languages and abstracts by age three. Imitation learning or they just suddenly learn it? This innate ability of language is being looked for in the brain.

40:00  It may be a waste of time looking for aspects of consciousness in the nervous system. The whole machinery of consciousness is run off site and not where we think it originates. (Ex. frontal lobes, cortex) It is all shipped in to the cortex.

But I say looking, relentlessly, at the mind is the only way you haven’t wasted time. It is a reasonable, intelligent, and alert effort, to get a glimpse and then its gone. And to ask “What good has it done?” But cheer up.

(This part reminded me of Pablo Neruda’s “A Dog Has Died” for whatever reason I included it. No, my dog used to gaze at me, paying me the attention I need, the attention required to make a vain person like me understand that, being a dog, he was wasting time, but, with those eyes so much purer than mine, he’d keep on gazing at me with a look that reserved for me alone all his sweet and shaggy life, always near me, never troubling me, and asking nothing)

45:00  All the thoughts, enjoyable and not enjoyable, light and dark, I still do not know thoughts, but now I know thoughts are shipped in from off site. The mind is the dummy/showcase. And it is divided into two parts to make sense. (silence and talk).

The ventriloquist is every other part of the body that is not the brain. And the other parts of the body (the ventriloquist to the cortex’s dummy) are the dummy to life’s ventriloquist. No burden, no free will, no self accusation. 

This factory (the mind) I have been studying all these years, are the passing tail end glimpses of thoughts, being shipped in from somewhere else. Nobody knows the mind. It is vacuous. 

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COPYRIGHT 2000: JAN COX 2065-1
IF YOU CAN EVER STAND FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM YOURSELF
YOU’LL SEE WHAT’S REALLY GOING ON — YOU, (IN OTTER WOIRDS) WILL “WAKE UP”.
THUS,(IN STILL OTHER OTTER WOIRDS),
“BEING ASLEEP” IS — STANDING TOO CLOSE TO YOURSELF.
OKAY THEN, ALL RIGHT ALL READY, THEN IN UTTER VENBS, TELL ME:
WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT THE SITUATION?
ANSWER: FORCE YOUR THOUGHTS TO RETURN OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE MIND IS WHEN IT IS ENGAGED IN THOUGHT.
WHEN THIS IS DONE REPEATEDLY, (AND WITHOUT GETTING GROSSLY ENTANGLED IN ITS CYCLICALITY),
WHAT I MEAN BY, “STANDING FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM YOURSELF.” WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME CLEAR, (AT LEAST FOR MINI-SECOND NECESSARY).
MINDS HAVE A NATURAL FIREWALL THAT FOR THE ORDINARY IS PROTECTION, BUT FOR THE FEW IT IS NOTHING BUT TROUBLE, (AND IT IS THIS):
AS LONG AS THE MIND IS SERVING AS A PASSIVE MEDIUM FOR THOUGHT IT CAN’T PONDER THE NATURE OF THOUGHT.
IN EVEN ADDITIONAL, “OTTER WOIRDS”: THE MIND TOTALLY TAKEN UP BY THE THOUGHTS THAT AUTOMATICALLY COME TO IT
STANDS FAR TOO CLOSE TO ITSELF TO EVER GAIN ANY WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF ITSELF.
A MIND CAN HAVE A NATIVE KIND OF INTELLIGENCE, AND CAN BE LEARNED AND A MEMORY BANK OF FACTS, YET THE MORE IT STAYS ENGAGED IN THINKING, THE FURTHER IT STAYS
FROM ANY COMPREHENSION OF ITSELF. SUCH IS A NORMAL MIND, SUCH IS A SLEEPING MIND.
….AND SPEAKING OF, “SUCH”: 2 0 6 5 – 2 7110
SUCH TALK AS THIS NUDGED ONE MAN TO ASK A MYSTIC:
“SO, IS “INTELLIGENCE”, AND “BEING ENLIGHTENED” TRULY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS ALTOGETHER?”, WHICH SEEMED,(I’M SURE), TO BE A REASONABLE AND INTELLIGENT QUESTION YET, (IF I MAY SPECULATE), THE MYSTIC WAS TOO ENLIGHTENED
TO RESPOND THERETO.
PST: EVEN IF THE TWO ARE AS FAR APART AS I AM HINTING,
ANYONE ENLIGHTENED WOULD BE TOO INTELLIGENT TO ANY LONGER EVEN HAVE AN INTEREST
IN SUCH MEANINGLESS INQUIRIES.
THE INTELLIGENCE THAT COMES WITH ENLIGHTENMENT RENDERS ONE DUMB CONCERNING ANY TALKING ABOUT IT.
SEE, IT’S LIKE THIS: THE OPENING GAMBIT IS FOR THE MIND TO TRY AND SEE ITSELF,
BUT — EVENTUALLY —
AS LONG AS THE MIND IS TRYING TO SEE ITSELF — IT CANNOT, “SEE ITSELF”.
SEES’
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THE POWER BEHIND THE THRONE THAT DRIVES THE MIND’S CONSCIOUSNESS,
UPON EXAMINATION, PROVES TO BE SOMETHING THAT OPERATES OUTSIDE OF ITS
CONSCIOUSNESS,
AND INTENSE SCRUTINY REVEALS THAT THE HIDDEN SOURCE IS NOT IN SOME
SUB CONSCIOUSNESS OF CONSCIOUSNESS, –
BUT IS RATHER, ALL OVER THE REST OF THE BODY THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE MIND’S
CONSCIOUSNESS.
CONSCIOUSNESS IS THE DUMMY,
EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF YOU IS THE VENTRILOQUIST,
AND IN THE SAME WAY THAT ALL PARTS OF THE BODY WORK AS A UNIFIED WHOLE,
SO TOO ARE THE DUMMY AND THE VENTRILOQUIST INSEPARABLE,
AND THEIR DISTINCTION, A MENTAL ILLUSION.
YET THERE IS ANOTHER STEP TO THIS: YOUR VENTRILOQUIST IS A DUMMY,
AND THE REST OF LIFE, ITS VENTRILOQUIST.
ORDINARY MINDS LOOK TO OTHER MENDS FOR AN EXPLANATION OF LIFE;
THOSE WANTING MORE QUICKLY REALIZE THAT THEY SHOULD LOOKING AT THEIR OWN MIND.
IF THEY PERSEVERE, (AND VENUS DOESN’T GET ALL ENTANGLED IN MERCURY’S ORBIT),
A MAN WITH THE INTEREST WILL EVENTUALLY REALIZE THAT HIS “STUDY OF HIS MIND”,
WHICH IS OF COURSE IN SIMPLE MATTER OF FACT: HIS MIND’S ATTEMPTED STUDY OF ITSELF
LEADS NO WHERE; TELLS HIM NOTHING, AND IS A VAIN ENDEAVOR — FOR ONE REASON:
THE MACHINERY THAT RUNS HIS MIND IS NOT LOCATED IN THE SAME PLACE HIS MIND IS.
ALL OF THE INTERESTING AND MEANINGFUL OPERATIONS CONCERNING THE MIND OCCUR
OFF SITE — WHICH EXPLAINS THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF THE MIND EVER UNDERSTANDING ITSELF
I SAY THAT — SOME WAY — YOU GOTTA GET AWAY FROM YOUR MIND;
YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR POSITION IN RELATIONSHIP THERETO.
— EY, HOW HARD CAN IT BE, LOOK HOW LITTLE ROOM THERE IS IN YOUR HEAT
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IF A PARTICULAR REPETITIVE, USELESS EFFORT IS DESCRIBED TO A MIND,
AND IT ASKED DIRECTLY ABOUT IT,
THE MIND WILL SAY THAT ASSUREDLY THE EFFORT WILL EVENTUALLY BE SEEN AS FUTILE, AND ABANDONED, OR AT LEAST THE WEARINESS OF REPEATED FAILURE WILL GRADUALLY CAUSE ITS FORESAKENING,
AND THE MIND WOULD SEEM TO BE ON SOLID GROUND WITH THIS VIEW,
YET THERE IS ONE INSTANCE COMMON WITH MAN IN WHICH THIS MOST REASONABLE EXPECTATION TOTALLY BREAKS DOWN.
MUST I TELL YOU WHAT IT IS?,
AM I OBLIGED TO PUT INTO WORDS THE ONE EXAMPLE OF MEN RELENTLESSLY
GIVING THEMSELVES OVER TO AN ENDLESSLY REPETITIVE,
AND TOTALLY USELESS EFFORT?!
…WELL, AT LEAST I DON’T GUESS THAT A HINT WOULD DO ANY HARM: IT’S SOMETHING THAT THE MIND DOESN’T HAVE TO LOOK FAR TO SEE.
THE ENDLESS CIRCLING OF A CAROUSEL DISTURBS NOT THE WOODEN HORSES THEREON, NEITHER IS THE MIND BOTHERED BY — EVEN AWARE OF — ITS OWN SIMILAR SITUATION.
THUS IT IS THAT TWO CREATURES ARE NOT RENDERED DIZZY AND DISTURBED BY AN ENDLESS CIRCLING: WOODEN HORSES AND MENS’ MINDS.
YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT THE OLD CLICHE — IT IS WRONG!, IT DOES NOT TAKE,”TWO TO TANGO.” — NO, NOT HARDLY.
A MAN ASLEEP IS ALREADY SO CLOSE TO HIMSELF THAT
HE MIGHT AS WELL GO AHEAD AND HAVE A DANCE AN ENDLESS DANCE.
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A PHALANX OF FACTS: SOME APPARENTLY OBVIOUS, SOME OBVIOUSLY OBSCURE
IF YOU STAY TOO MUCH AT HOME IT BECOMES TOO FAMILIAR.
No ONE HAS ANY PLACE TO STAY EXCEPT HOME.
STAYING AT HOME WILL GET YOU NO WHERE.
EVERYONE IS MOST COMFORTABLE BEING AT HOME.
THE MORE YOU STAY AT HOME THE DUMBER YOU BECOME.
A MAN FEELS MOST SECURE IN HIS OWN HOME.
SAFETY AND STUPIDITY CAN QUICKLY BECOME ONE IN THE SAME — IF -YOU STAY AT HOME TOO MUCH.
ADDENDUM SPECULATION: ALLOWING YOUR MIND TO ACT AS A PASSIVE MEDIUM FOR WHATEVER THOUGHTS PRESENT THEMSELVES TO IT
IS WHAT IS MEANT BY: “STAYING HOME TOO MUCH.”
IF YOU’RE EVER GOING TO SEE THIS AFFAIR ALL THE WAY THRU
YOU’VE SIMPLY GOT TO PUT SOME SPACE BETWEEN YOU AND THE THOUGHTS FLOWING THRU YOU
“STAND BACK THERE FOLKS, AND GIVE THE MAN SOME ROOM;
CAN’T YOU SEE THAT ONE OF THE DANCERS IS TRYING TO EXTRICATE HIMSELF FROM
HIS PARTNER’S FRENZIED DEATH GRIP.
COME ON NOW — STAND BACK —
SAME AS HE’S TRYIN’ TO DO.”
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IN LINE WITH SOME OF TODAY’S MODELING:
A MAN DOES NOT “WAKE UP” SUDDENLY IN BUDDHA LAND, OR•SOME OTHER MAGICAL LOCALE; HE WAKES UP RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEANINGLESS MENTAL DANCE STEP HE WAS HAVING WITH HIMSELF.
BEGINNING TO CATCH ON, STARTS TO INTERRUPT YOUR DANCE;
ACTUALLY GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF THINGS, TAKES YOU OFF THE DANCE. FLOOR ITSELF. SAID “FLOOR” BEING ALL OF THE THOUGHTS WHICH HOLD YOU SO SEDUCTIVELY IN THEIR ALL TOO FAMILIAR ARMS.
ERGO: THE STRUGGLE TO AWAKEN IS A SEARCH FOR THE FIRE EXIT.